Preparing IETF 91 agenda

Discussion:

Fred Baker (fred)

2014-10-07 00:09:27 UTC

As I mentioned last week, Lee and I are pulling together an agenda for IETF 91. The drop-dead date for new or updated drafts is 27 October, and frankly it will work better if drafts arrive earlier - as we are looking for working group commentary on them.

Current state of play:

IESG:
Jul 31 draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6
Sep 1 draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-roaming-analysis

IETF Last Call:
Sep 26 draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile

Working Group Document updated since IETF:
Sep 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices

Individual Submission updated since IETF:
Aug 24 draft-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem
On list, Ray Hunter suggests someone write "a draft summarizing the ICMP PTB problem"
Sep 10 draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world
There has been some discussion on-list.
Sep 15 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat
No list commentary
Sep 18 draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Some commentary, not supportive
Sep 18 draft-wang-v6ops-xlat-prefix-discovery
A fair amount of discussion, mostly anti-NAT.
Sep 25 draft-ybai-v6ops-ipv6-for-openstack
no list commentary
Oct 5 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc
Some list commentary

Working Group Document NOT updated since IETF:
Jun 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
Jul 4 draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations

Individual Submission NOT updated since IETF:
Apr 7 draft-smith-v6ops-mitigate-rtr-dos-mld-slctd-node
Jul 3 draft-liu-v6ops-running-multiple-prefixes
Jul 4 draft-sun-v6ops-xlat-multi
Jul 4 draft-yourtchenko-chown-rupik-v6ops-dad-3x
Jul 20 draft-wang-v6ops-flow-label-refelction
Jul 21 draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance

more data at http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?sort=status&activedrafts=on&name=v6ops

joel jaeggli

2014-10-07 01:22:50 UTC

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Imho that fine by me and I might be willing to contribute if someone
picks up the pen, but it's not the problem I have really. the problem I
have in specific is not dropping the packets I do receive on the floor,
which is an operational one for which I have a mitigation. I don't
expect further discussion for the existing draft is warranted at this
meeting since it was largely revved to address commentary from the last
meeting.

thanks
joel

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
Sep 10 draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world
There has been some discussion on-list.
Sep 15 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat
No list commentary
Sep 18 draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Some commentary, not supportive
Sep 18 draft-wang-v6ops-xlat-prefix-discovery
A fair amount of discussion, mostly anti-NAT.
Sep 25 draft-ybai-v6ops-ipv6-for-openstack
no list commentary
Oct 5 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc
Some list commentary
Jun 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
Jul 4 draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations
Apr 7 draft-smith-v6ops-mitigate-rtr-dos-mld-slctd-node
Jul 3 draft-liu-v6ops-running-multiple-prefixes
Jul 4 draft-sun-v6ops-xlat-multi
Jul 4 draft-yourtchenko-chown-rupik-v6ops-dad-3x
Jul 20 draft-wang-v6ops-flow-label-refelction
Jul 21 draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance
more data at http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?sort=status&activedrafts=on&name=v6ops

Ruri Hiromi

2014-10-09 08:04:25 UTC

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Dear chairs,

Hi,
I submitted "draft-jpcert-ipv6vullnerability-check-00" today.
If v6ops gives a 3 to 5 minutes for me, I would like to talk about this.

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jpcert-ipv6vullnerability-check/

Regards,

P.S. I am still working on this.... until the deadline comes...

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
As I mentioned last week, Lee and I are pulling together an agenda for IETF 91. The drop-dead date for new or updated drafts is 27 October, and frankly it will work better if drafts arrive earlier - as we are looking for working group commentary on them.
Jul 31 draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6
Sep 1 draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-roaming-analysis
Sep 26 draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile
Sep 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices
Aug 24 draft-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem
On list, Ray Hunter suggests someone write "a draft summarizing the ICMP PTB problem"
Sep 10 draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world
There has been some discussion on-list.
Sep 15 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat
No list commentary
Sep 18 draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Some commentary, not supportive
Sep 18 draft-wang-v6ops-xlat-prefix-discovery
A fair amount of discussion, mostly anti-NAT.
Sep 25 draft-ybai-v6ops-ipv6-for-openstack
no list commentary
Oct 5 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc
Some list commentary
Jun 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
Jul 4 draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations
Apr 7 draft-smith-v6ops-mitigate-rtr-dos-mld-slctd-node
Jul 3 draft-liu-v6ops-running-multiple-prefixes
Jul 4 draft-sun-v6ops-xlat-multi
Jul 4 draft-yourtchenko-chown-rupik-v6ops-dad-3x
Jul 20 draft-wang-v6ops-flow-label-refelction
Jul 21 draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance
more data at http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?sort=status&activedrafts=on&name=v6ops
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v6ops mailing list
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops

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Fred Baker (fred)

2014-10-09 11:48:41 UTC

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I would be interested in working group opinions on this note. Is it useful to the operators?

Post by Ruri Hiromi
Dear chairs,
Hi,
I submitted "draft-jpcert-ipv6vullnerability-check-00" today.
If v6ops gives a 3 to 5 minutes for me, I would like to talk about this.
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jpcert-ipv6vullnerability-check/
Regards,
P.S. I am still working on this.... until the deadline comes...

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INTEC Inc.

Mikael Abrahamsson

2014-10-13 07:05:53 UTC

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My opinion is that having test suites available as FOSS would be great.
The tools look like they're of the kind already freely available, but
actually setting up tests that operators and end users can run against
their equipment is of great help. I encourage freely available tests of
all kinds.

The document lists tests performed but doesn't say if the tools will be
available, so that's a question from me to the author.

I would like to see protocol fuzzers etc also be available, if possible.
We have way too few of these freely available.

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
I would be interested in working group opinions on this note. Is it useful to the operators?

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Ruri Hiromi

2014-10-14 00:52:08 UTC

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Thanks for the comment.

Yes, the tool is free to obtain. But to keep healthy use of the tool,
JPCERT/CC currently provides it based on requests from Vendors.(and
requester has to sign a kind of an agreement of use policy document)
We think a product will also be available in the end of this year.

This is my personal concern, the tool needs to be customized for
automatic testing and showing more easy to understandable dialogue and
so on.

Regards,

Post by Mikael Abrahamsson
My opinion is that having test suites available as FOSS would be great.
The tools look like they're of the kind already freely available, but
actually setting up tests that operators and end users can run against
their equipment is of great help. I encourage freely available tests of
all kinds.
The document lists tests performed but doesn't say if the tools will be
available, so that's a question from me to the author.
I would like to see protocol fuzzers etc also be available, if possible.
We have way too few of these freely available.

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
I would be interested in working group opinions on this note. Is it
useful to the operators?

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
As I mentioned last week, Lee and I are pulling together an agenda
for IETF 91. The drop-dead date for new or updated drafts is 27
October, and frankly it will work better if drafts arrive earlier -
as we are looking for working group commentary on them.
Jul 31 draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6
Sep 1 draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-roaming-analysis
Sep 26 draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile
Sep 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices
Aug 24 draft-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem
On list, Ray Hunter suggests someone write "a draft
summarizing the ICMP PTB problem"
Sep 10 draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world
There has been some discussion on-list.
Sep 15 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat
No list commentary
Sep 18 draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Some commentary, not supportive
Sep 18 draft-wang-v6ops-xlat-prefix-discovery
A fair amount of discussion, mostly anti-NAT.
Sep 25 draft-ybai-v6ops-ipv6-for-openstack
no list commentary
Oct 5 draft-anderson-v6ops-siit-dc
Some list commentary
Jun 18 draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
Jul 4 draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations
Apr 7 draft-smith-v6ops-mitigate-rtr-dos-mld-slctd-node
Jul 3 draft-liu-v6ops-running-multiple-prefixes
Jul 4 draft-sun-v6ops-xlat-multi
Jul 4 draft-yourtchenko-chown-rupik-v6ops-dad-3x
Jul 20 draft-wang-v6ops-flow-label-refelction
Jul 21 draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance
more data at
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?sort=status&activedrafts=on&name=v6ops
_______________________________________________
v6ops mailing list
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops

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神明達哉

2014-10-15 18:03:51 UTC

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At Thu, 9 Oct 2014 11:48:41 +0000,

Post by Fred Baker (fred)
I would be interested in working group opinions on this note. Is it useful to the operators?

I'm not a (professional) operator, but from a quick read of the draft
I found it useful and worth a meeting slot for discussions.

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Fernando Gont

2014-10-16 14:47:41 UTC

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Hi, Fred,

We'd like to request a slot for discussing:

Filename: draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world.
Presenters: Jen Linkova & Fernando Gont

Thanks,
Fernando

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